82-year-old Carman Hie and his 75-year-old brother Doug have combined for almost 200 training starts and 100 drives in 2026 - but they’ll still look you in the eye and tell you they’re both retired! After a lifetime in the business they love, the brothers recently sat down with us in the Kawartha Downs backstretch to share some stories and some laughs, while reminiscing about family, horses and a combined 157 years in racing. By Dan Fisher.