Reasons Released For Waxman Fine, Suspension; Waxman Responds
On Friday, the Ontario Racing Commission handed Isaac Waxman a fine for $5,000 and one-year suspension for violation of probation
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This ruling is separate from the indefinite suspension for which the Superior Court of Justice granted Waxman a stay earlier this month. Trot Insider has learned that Waxman's lawyers will also appeal this decision.
The ORC's reasons for the ruling are as follows.
Judges Reasons for Decision of "Isaac Waxman"
Background
On February 3, 2011, "Isaac Waxman" (Waxman) was issued Standardbred ruling SB43216 wherein he was given an interim full suspension pending a hearing in relation to his egregious conduct following race 6 at Kawartha Downs also on February 3rd.
This ruling was issued as a result of Waxman entering onto the racetrack area directly in front of the public grandstand and proceeding to raise his arms in the air with his middle fingers extended. He then began to shout "vulgar profanities" numerous times. He then made several stroking motions with his arm extended from his groin area towards the grandstand and the judges' stand. This truly embarrassing, disrespectful, crude, and egregious conduct was unfortunately both seen, and heard, by any spectator, employee, official, and other participant in the grandstand area or, on that area of the racetrack. His actions lasted for approximately 2 - 3 minutes in duration. Waxman's actions raised immediate concerns for the safety of everyone as he was obviously very upset and his conduct was concerning.
On February 4, 2011, Waxman received an injunction with respect to this ruling from the Ontario Superior Court of Justice in Hamilton allowing him to continue racing until a return court date of February 17. That injunction hearing (Feb. 4 ) was held at approximately 2:30pm without the presence of representation from the O.R.C. due to the fact our office was notified at approximately 1pm same day.
Waxman proceeded to transfer the ownerships of four (4) horses from his name to that of his known girlfriend, Taryn Beaupre, on February 5" at Flamboro Downs. On February 7", a "correction" as issued with Standardbred Canada in relation to the ownership of one of these horses and subsequently, had Beaupre's name removed from the registration. Additionally, on February 21 and 23, there have been other owner transfers done. A reasonable person would conclude that he is attempting to ensure that he has little or no ownership on paper when he perceives a suspension is coming or, in this case, handed down.
On February 7 the judges issued SB43013 indicating that any horses owned by Waxman as of February 4 have the purse money held pending the outcome of his return court date of February 17.
We (the judges) endeavoured to hold an immediate hearing and issued a Notice of Hearing (N.O.H.) to Waxman and his counsel on February 7, with the hearing scheduled for February 10. Waxman and counsel indicated their inability to attend on three days notice and requested a new date. We complied and re-issued a N.O.H. for February 12. Again, they indicated they would not attend. Although the N.O.H. allows for us to "proceed in the party's absence" we set it aside to a date to be determined.
We were later able to reach a verbal agreement on a date of February 24 for the hearing to take place at Kawartha Downs and as such, a N.O.H. was issued for that date.
At the February 17 return hearing in Superior Court, the judge was unable to hear the case for time considerations and, issued a continuance of the injunction until the February 24 date of the hearing with the judges at Kawartha Downs. The Superior Court hearing was set for a date sometime the week of February 28. A request was made by Waxman counsel to have the purse money released, which was denied.
Reasons
This type of conduct by Waxman on February 3rd can not and will not be tolerated in any manner what-so-ever. In an era where many racetracks are trying new promotions and ideas to attract a new customer, the conduct of everyone involved with this sport, must be held to the highest standards. Accountability falls on everyone involved with harness racing to act in a professional manner.
In viewing Waxman's past record, we note there have been five (5) separate conduct violations in the past twelve (12) months, they are:
1) Conditions placed on his licence where he was ordered;
- placed on probation;
- to keep the peace and be of good behaviour;
- to complete an anger management course.
The above ruling was issued on December 5, 2010, apparently with no impact on Waxman.
2) A fine of $1,000. for conduct towards another official from October 15, 2010
3) A fine of $1,000. for conduct involving the use of profanity in the grandstand area at
Mohawk Racetrack, and shouting obscenities in a public area.
4) A fine of $300. for improper language towards the officials from March, 2010.
5) A fine of $100. for profane language towards another participant issued February 17, 2010.
Even though the penalties have escalated somewhat, it appears that the message is not getting through. Waxman has continued to display a complete lack of respect for his fellow licencees, the officials, and now on a second occasion has brought an overwhelming amount of embarrassment to the industry by a display in public.
To add to this, Waxman had a picture of himself disgracing the public and officials inserted into the middle of his horse's win photo. Clearly a sign that he was, and is, proud of his actions. He is quoted on a social media site as saying his actions were "priceless and everyone at KD said it should go down in history."
It was argued that earlier on February 3; we had scratched Waxman's horse, Windsun Rachel in error from the second race. The security log sheet shows the horse being checked into the paddock barn at 3:31 pm - some 16 minutes late from the prescribed time of 3:15pm. The fact he failed to have the horse in the paddock on time is quite evident. We spoke to both the paddock judge and security involved, 3:31pm was the first time they seen the horse. Picking up your saddle pad does not count as being in the paddock. You must be checked into the paddock an hour before your race, this is not an issue especially for the first three races as Kawartha is a three race paddock. This is not anything new.
We were also presented with a few previous cases involving conduct of other individuals and, were asked to consider these when arriving at our decision. Although none are directly relevant to what took place in this incident, we have taken them under advisement.
We heard from witnesses, Joelann Irvine, Dave Gilders, Marty Cousins, and Ken Switzer. As well, Waxrnan testified to the events himself.
Decision
Under O.R.C. rules; 6.17 (c, d), 6.20 (by c), 5.1 1, and 1.09: He has violated his probation wherein he was to keep the peace and be of good behaviour. We find Waxman guilty and issue standardbred ruling SB43221 wherein "Isaac Waxman" is fully suspended for a period of "One (1) year fiom February 28", 201 1 to February 29,2012 and fined the amount of $5,000."
Horses owned by Isaac Waxrnan, in whole, or in part, have been suspended effective with the
suspension start date of "February 28th, 2011" pending approval under ruling SB43222. O.R.C. rules 6.13.01 and 6.13.02 and 6.13.03 shall apply.
Further, in continuance with SB43013, we have issued ruling SB43223 wherein the purse money is to continue to be held on the horses Isaac Waxman owned in whole, or in part, as of February 4, 2011, until the injunction received from the Ontario Superior Court of Justice (court #11-25384) has been fully and completely resolved.
In addition, under O.R.C. rule 26.08 any horse trained by Isaac Waxman, but not owned wholly or in part by him may, with the consent of these judges, have a trainer transfer approved at Kawartha Downs prior to being entered in to race using policy directive 2-2008.
Ontario Racing Commission Judges
Rick Rier
Peter Gillies
John Murphy
(with files from the ORC)
Waxman's response to this ruling appears below.
Baseball had a problem back
Baseball had a problem back in the 1920s. The owners turned to Judge Keenesaw Mountain Landis who became the first commissioner of baseball. He was given absolute authority over the game and was the man who dealt with the Chicago Black Sox scandal among other things. An absolute final arbiter in all things baseball.Some might argue that the role has diminished with the current baseball commissioner but I digress.
An absolute final authority to arbitrate the disputes in the racing game is badly needed. The ORC through its various departments should continue to supervise racing in its current capacity since 99% of what they do is well executed and non-controversial. The change that I would suggest is that when an ORC ruling is appealed, the ORC would become the prosecuter and the Commissioner would become the sole arbiter. No change for the horseperson - he (she) is still the defendent but at least the judge and opponent are not the same person. No courts, decision binding,no further appeal. In a perfect world the horseman's provincial group (whoops - we don't have just 1) would meet with the ORC and agree on a commissioner. I doubt that we'd ever find another Judge Landis but there must be someone suitable out there that would fit the bill.
In reply to Baseball had a problem back by berniemcgarry@…
Thank you Mr. McGarry. This
Thank you Mr. McGarry.
This is exactly what we need. The past in our game is riddled with appeals that are nothing more than a waste of the courts time. In the event that a commissioner is put in place it makes court time less, poor media coverage less and a good honest and responsible individual representing the horse people. A case such as this was not going to be granted a stay, everyone knew that. Instead we waste time in court, and drag the case through the media to the point of negetive public opinion on the entire industry. We do need a commissioner as long as the people in the game are prepared that the commissioner can also take on the role of the executioner.
As in baseball, in the 20's even the players agreed with the need for such person, and not all decisions made by Judge Landis were in the best interest of the individual, but in the end most agreed-it was in the best interest of the game. We need to stop making decisions based on the individual and start making them for the best interest of the sport.
In Mr. Waxman's initial statement he made the comment " not until the hierarchy of standardbred racing in Ontario transforms from glorifying their image to glorifying the sport we all suffer together." It is stunts like this that will continue to hamper any progress we have made in changing the public's opinion. Nothing needs to be glorified, nobody needs to suffer, we need to return to straight forward thinking and wholesome racing and entertainment.
Don Patrick What a shocking
Don Patrick
What a shocking turn of events. The appeal of the penalty, to the very same people who applied the penalty, was denied. Kind of like appealling your speeding ticket to the very same cop who issued you the ticket. Perfect system.....for the people in charge.
Very good points, Carlo.
Very good points, Carlo. Didn't intend to be the resident 'Hanging Judge' ... especially when many here seemed fixed on the 'Standardbred' Death Sentence! Perhaps cooler heads will prevail ... a little forgiveness can go a long way. ;-)
C.Renon Mr Sucee i find your
C.Renon Mr Sucee i find your fine and suspension excessive as it is more money and time than alot of drug violations. Which is worse? My penalty anger management at his expense, probation, $1,000 and 15 days!
Why the heated exchanges and
Why the heated exchanges and personal attacks? This just a forum for people to share their thoughts. And we're 'giving the finger' and 'testosterizing' each other for sharing. A bit like Waxman - but we haven't lost any money!!
IT'S UNANIMOUS (100% agreement): MR. WAXMAN'S behavior was UNACCEPTABLE - AND WARRANTS A PENALTY!! Mr. Waxman agrees; his brother agrees; we ALL agree; probably Waxman's Lawyers agree. MR. WAXMAN, WE (THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION) FIND YOU GUILTY AS CHARGED!!
WHAT 'PENALTY' would YOU give to MR WAXMAN? Without ATTACK or HUMILIATION?
FINE? How much? $1,000; $5k; $50k; $1M? (Not an issue WHO pays it?)
SUSPENSION? How long? 7 days; 15 days; 6 months; LIFE?PROBATION? ANOTHER CONSIDERATION
CONDITIONS? STILL MORE POSSIBILITIES
If YOU were the JUDGE - What would YOUR SENTENCE be? Consider the acts. Consider potential 'victims' (not on National TV etc). Consider Waxman's history. Consider a man's livelihood. Consider a sport you (he) love(s). Try to be fair - TO ALL:
JUDGE SUCEE rules: $5,000 FINE; 1 MONTH SUSPENSION; INDEFINITE PROBATION. FURTHER, MR. WAXMAN SHALL 'ENROLL IN', 'ATTEND' AND 'ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE' IN 'ANGER MANAGEMENT'. UPON SATISFYING THE ORC HE HAS 'SUCCESSFULLY' DEVELOPED SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE MEANS TO EXPRESS HIS EMOTIONAL SELF, THE 'PROBATION' SHALL BE TERMINATED.
That's my Verdict. What's your's, fellow 'Judges'?
Mr. Bossie it is obvious you
Mr. Bossie it is obvious you could not understand my sarcasm, Yes what happened in Quebec can and will happen here if the powers that be do not change what they are doing. To bad they do screen for judges that way, because there is no one more passionate about racing than myself.
There would be much harsher penalties for lack of effort,drug use and many more investigations on things that do not look right.Last night at Woodbine a certain horse won at long odds but the irony here is that a certain driver has driven him 4 times and never been worse than 3rd.Another driver has driven him 3 times and never had a top 3 finish.Is this just a coincidence?
Also you are ok with the judges ruling on the London race? So you do not value transparency,integrity,fairness or common sense its great they screen the way they do.As for the Waxman situation i hope the courts of Ontario uphold these principles and put the ORC in their place. Have a good day!
In reply to Mr. Bossie it is obvious you by c.a.r.
Your sarcasm was received
Your sarcasm was received correctly, and as I referred, this could happen in Ontario, just think of the predicament many horsemen would be in if WEG went broke or closed their doors. This could happen here - I think you and I both agree on that.
Regarding your statement on harsher penalties for Lack of effort and drug use I wholeheartedly agree. The drivers are out there to urge horses to the best of the animals ability. Nothing more, nothing less. The horses ability can fluctuate like the weather making this a tough call for the judges if you base your findings strictly on past performance. There are too many factors to consider to make this a clean call. The drivers' lack of effort is usually a little more obvious and must be the determining factor. Evidence of race video needs to be reviewed before such a call can be made. Drivers are under more scutiny today than ever before. They are being video taped and watched by millions of people in some cases (over the internet and OTB, etc.) and must understand the responsibility that comes with this public exhibition. The same is true for the race judges. I do not disagree our system has flaws, as do most sports with their rulebook, hockey for example is one which comes to mind, look at the changes it has endured. Our rulebook must change also, both in the way we collect evidence and in the way of prosecution. There is an air of guilty until proven innocent in many cases. This is the sort of thing that is killing our support from the public. If it takes a review of the system - so be it - review it. Not in a "drag through the mud" sort of way, but in a swift "improvement minded" sort of way. Make the findings and changes well publicized. Let the people know about the changes. At the same time help people understand the existing rules.
The incident at KD, is not something to dwell on, not an incident to get the ball rolling, its an incident that is shameful to the sport and tells the general public that horsemen are disrespectful to their audience, I know the actions were directed at the judges. Does the general public know the judges are located directly above the grandstand?? or behind them?? Completely disrespectful on the horseman's part.
This will be interesting.
This will be interesting. Mr. Waxman definitely wrong, pick a better field for this type of behavoir, great passion though.
As for the ruling, let's see what the courts say. I have to side with the industry, not even the NFL puts up with this S#*!.
Greg Parke
Well I have to post again. I
Well I have to post again. I have interviewed for a judges position but was passed over. The powers to be could not grasp some of the ideas and changes I proposed during interviews, which included making the breaking and pylon rules very simple for the fans to understand you break you are DQ'ED, easy- right?
I have always had a respect for Mr. Burgess's results on track and never meeting him I now have a respect for him as a person and that he would rather win by competion than because of a scratch of a competetor,and to stand up for what he believes is a wrong! That is a MAN.
I have seen far too many horse people that would rather benefit from someone's misfortune than their own hard work,these people are cowards.Mr. Albert you have a very short memory Randy was punished because the ORC did not like his sense of humor on a tv show, and another one of your examples did he not receive a very light suspension for an infraction that could send a person to jail for?
WE need more people with passion who want to win every race! What is the big deal with the finger as I recall we had a Prime Minister who used it, did he get suspended...no. He arguably was the best leader of the country we have ever had. Mr. Waxman that puts you in pretty good company.
To the people who had their kids at KD I am sure they have seen and heard worse on the school playground. Kudos to all who have the abilty to see through the immature actions of Mr. Waxman and the ability to see the real problems involving the ORC and the industry.Seems like most against him are relatively adept at being unsucessful and I will not change what you think and so be it, you can follow like sheep, have no real passion and pray that ORC will lead you to the promised land! How is racing doing in Quebec?
In reply to Well I have to post again. I by c.a.r.
Mr Renon; After reviewing
Mr Renon;
After reviewing your comment , I have renewed faith in the selection process for a race judge. To make a statement regarding the breaking rule such as yours, would enstill little comfort to the race fans betting on the races. I have seen races before that the entire field - at some point of the race - makes a break, how would your rule work there?? Total refund?? We know how the general public reacts to refunds.
My respect for Mr. Burgess continues and perhaps has increased slightly, as I am glad to see he is not afraid to say what is on his mind. However, I think rather than generalizing his claims about the ORC, perhaps he could be a little more specific, and perhaps act on them where they will be addressed.
If the type of passion you expect to see is in the manner which Mr. Waxman performed at KD or furthermore in the past year. Perhaps (and hopefully) you would look at it differently if you were in the judges booth, and he reacted this way to one of your judgements. It is not the fact that displays like this are common in other sports or entertainment events, it is the fact that it happened at a Harness Race. If he does not like the rules - get them changed - if he can't change them - live with them - if he can't live with them - leave. We can not tolerate actions that are clearly described in OUR rulebook as unacceptable. This leaves us wide open to the perception that "if we let this go - what else will we allow".
Regarding your perception of passion, perhaps you need to take a look at what rules you are following. If it is passion, true passion wins within the rules. Any one can win a horse race, but to win it within a set of rules set out by governing bodies, that is true passion. If you choose to win without respect to the rules your days are coming. For the rest of us "sheep" we will continue to play on a level playing field winning fair and square.
The sarcasm you elude to with regards to our friends in Quebec, I will not even comment on, this could happen right here in your own backyard, be careful.
Here's the big picture and
Here's the big picture and the realities;judges think horsemen are a bunch of crooks. Horsemen think judges are unfair. The public thinks judges are unfair and horsemen are a bunch of crooks.
There was actually someone in the grandstand at Kawartha? Did the judges outnumber the spectators?
Who cares? Nobody, except insiders and the most avid fans.
The handle and attendance will not be affected either way. Who cares? Nobody but insiders and the most ardent fans.The horseman is wrong here, and the Judges are using the "public" as an excuse to salvage their fragile and inflated egos.
C'mon Issac,man up.ORC may
C'mon Issac,man up.ORC may be a joke but there are rules in every sport.Most commented on topic I have seen in a while.Now you are even insulting those 12 smokers who help support your livelyhood.Grow up and help save this sport instead of trying to ruin it.I can very well understand your cause.Do not overreact as this in no way will improve it.To add,as a bettor I always felt that I got my moneys worth betting on your horses.Win or lose.More than I can say for a lot of horses I have bet on.Hope to see you in this sport in the future.
Michael Guerriero FB
Michael Guerriero
FB RACING
Sometimes complaints fall on DEAF ears! Looks like Isaac's have not. I commend you for standing up for what you believe in. Even though your actions may be extreme, in desperate times you seek out desperate measures. It seems as though this incident may bring up change in a flawed system. If half of us had enough guts to do the same, the industry may not be in its present situation. I am though, disappointed that we have such small minded individuals using Isaac's social status and age as a crutch to defend there own inadequcies. These are the same people holding this industry back from future prosperity. Dont hate on him because he has the wherewithall to do what most of us would like to. Be happy someone is actually trying to do something at all!
Does anyone else appreciate
Does anyone else appreciate the irony of the situation where someone who, in front of a public audience, gives “the finger”, shouts “vulgar profanities”, and then makes lewd “stroking motions” towards a person (i.e., the ORC) – subsequently, seeks that an order of contempt be found against that other person?
I see that more examples of brilliant reasoning have been posted – particularly the analogies concerning the “bad behaviour” situations involving professional sports figures Roberto Alomar and Kyle Busch. No doubt Mr. Waxman’s counsel will find these examples useful when it comes time to argue his motion, and later his application against the ORC. I’m sure, if argued, the judge will find this reasoning quite compelling.
Roberto Alomar was considered by many to be one of the best second basemen in MLB history, winning 10 more Gold Gloves than any other second baseman in history. Kyle Busch holds the record for the most NASCAR wins in a season. Now, in my mind – and it might just be me – but things get a little fuzzy here. Maybe if I had more starts, I would be better able to comprehend this highly technical argument. Perhaps someone can jump in and clarify exactly how Mr. Waxman’s connection to Standardbred Racing is similar to what Roberto Alomar was to baseball and what Kyle Busch is to NASCAR racing – and, for that matter – how it is relevant?
Although Alomar and Busch both engaged in bad behaviour, some of which can be likened to the actions demonstrated by Mr. Waxman – Alomar and Busch were not five time repeat offenders. I think I definitely have to agree with Mr. Brunet on this one. The Waxman debacle can be distingushed in many ways from those incidents involving Alomar and Busch. On the other hand, I guess both Mr. Brunet and I could both be wrong. I don’t know how many starts Mr. Brunet has – so I am not sure whether he is qualified to offer an opinion on this matter either.
The characterization of the ORC as judge, jury and “EXECUTIONER” is an interesting, if not extreme, metaphore. I note that it is consistent with Mr. Waxman’s earlier references to the justice systems in place in Libya (a country which sponsors terrorism) in respect of his dealings with the ORC. I don’t know about you – but these statements sound a little excessive. Years ago I got fined by the ORC – I remember meeting the judges to discuss the matter – I had no idea at that time there was a possibility my life was at risk.
For those readers who are sitting on the fence – wondering whether the ORC really is some sort of “evil empire” – you can take some comfort in the fact the CSIS and US Homeland Security websites do not list the ORC as a known terrorist organization.
Oh Isaac, you make my head
Oh Isaac, you make my head hurt - Give it a rest already. You have had more then enough chances, but everytime you prove yourself to be a detriment to the sport. We dont need you, or your money, so please stop wasting ours, as its "our" money the ORC has to waste to deal with you. If I hear your name again in a year its to soon. Take your lumps like a big boy.... look on the bright side tim hortons is hiring.
all in all laddies and
all in all laddies and gentlemen, as long as the horse industry lets this action and control continue happening in our indusrty it will end with the business coming to an end.. the judges make mistakes all the time and never get fined or suspended. orc has way to much control and picks its favorites to leave alone and makes sure they punish the trainers and drivers it chooses. if your a big name trainer or driver you seem to be left alone... there is definately favourism played in this business.. anytime any appeal goes to a"regular" court the orc loses.. we must make a change we need to make a change our future depends on it.. we keep losing owners and trainers yet alone bettors.. the little guy cant win with the orc and the way it is controlling the business.. no little guy means the end as far as im concerned.. we all must make a stand its time for a change, to save our future in racing..
If Mr Waxman wins his motion
If Mr Waxman wins his motion watch the band wagoners change rides!!
I'm so surprised by all
I'm so surprised by all these comments defending Waxman. How can anyone defend his actions and his multiple offenses since he started to drive and train his own horses. This person is a complete embarrassment to himself and this entire sport.
Personally I think the suspensions/fines should be bigger and longer than they are. This sport maybe dying a slow death but this is no way to bolster attendance or handle. Join WWE Mr. Waxman, acting like a fool is encouraged there.
In reply to I'm so surprised by all by Terry Lantz
Don Patrick I think it's
Don Patrick
I think it's more about questioning the ORC's motives and priorities than it is Isaac's actions. What other offense carries $5000 and a one year suspension?
I don't think family name
I don't think family name enters into this Blair. I have met Isaac. He can be brash, abrasive, and somewhat obnoxious. But his horses come ready to race. As a bettor, that's all I need to know about him.
Bottom line is this. As long as ORC decisions are appealled to members of the ORC, in my opinion the process remains a joke.
I was going to stop posting
I was going to stop posting here on this topic, because the ire raised by Mr. Waxman is so venomous and shrill it is pretty difficult to go against that flow of opinion. However since I have been called stupid (or at least had it been hinted that I was so) plus been told I have been "milking" the lower end conditions (hehe), I felt obliged to respond once more.
First of all I hope all the anti-Waxman's out there are not doing so because they think he is a spoiled little rich kid who happens to have the wrong last name. I hope there is some objectivity in the judgement of him.
Secondly, Kyle Busch gave the finger to the judges stand on national network television and I don't believe he missed one race. NASCAR appears to be pretty tightly controlled, but this indiscretion didn't warrant much of a reaction. Horse racing can only dream to reach the lofty status of that sport.
And finally if the ORC takes all discretion away from our judges then they cease to be judges. The proper moniker would be rule clerks or something to that effect. The Racing Commission at some time has to be scrutinized by the horsemen because it no longer sees itself solely as an administrator, but believes they are going to play a large part in the direction of the industry. Some of it's initiatives may be good ones. But a lot of power is being wielded.
They are deciding how many dates a racetrack can have. They are telling racetracks what kinds of conditions to write. They didn't just initiate a whipping rule ( which I agree with) but also went so far as to dictate what motions the driver can make on the bike. They have also mandated that trainers send their horses for autopsy if it dies on the racetrack or even within 60 days of its last start. That is at the trainer's expense and even if the horse was euthanized because of a fracture. There is no other commission anywhere exercising so much control. Fine with me I guess, but the decisions they make better be fair and the right ones, the majority of the time.
The ORC is no longer funded or controlled by the provincial government as it once was. It is now an independent organization funded by its participants. That is the racetracks and the horsemen. The Commission dictates how much money will come their way. There may be some backlash from the tracks and horsemen's organizations, but I believe the ORC usually gets what it asks for.
I am not trying to indiscriminately criticize everything done by the Commission and it's judges. And I obviously don't agree with all the rules I am required to obey---but will do so. I just hope that industry participants understand how today's ORC is organized.
In reply to I was going to stop posting by Blair Burgess
Re: Kyle Bush. Fined 25K and
Re: Kyle Bush. Fined 25K and a 2 lap penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct & put on probation for balance of year...
"I accept NASCAR's penalty and realize what I did during Sunday's race at Texas was inappropriate," Busch said. "Even in my relatively short time here in NASCAR, it's pretty obvious to everyone that I wear my emotions on my sleeve. Sometimes that passion has allowed me to find that little something extra I needed to win, and other times it's made me cross the line. Sunday at Texas was one of those days. I lost my cool, plain and simple. It's not acceptable, and I know that. I apologize to NASCAR, its fans, all the partners who support Joe Gibbs Racing, and all the people who work so hard to give me a race car that's capable of winning races every week. All of those people deserve better from me, and I owe it to them to keep my emotions in check."
There was a reaction, Bush knew that he was wrong, admitted it and moved on with a sincere apologie. I THINK IF IT GOT TO A 6TH OFFENCE WITHIN A YEAR HE WOULD BE GONE FOR MORE THEN A YEAR IF NOT FOREVER !!!
In reply to I was going to stop posting by Blair Burgess
Mr Burgess I commend you for
Mr Burgess I commend you for at least having the guts to call a spade a spade.This is my second attempt at commnting on this event the first apparently didn't meet with the approval of S.C. I agree Isaac's behavior wasn't necessarily the best peice of showmanship but then when Roberto Allomar spit in the face of an umpire neither was that.Puting that incident in perspective Allomar got a six game suspension and has even since been accepted into Baseball's Hall of Fame.
Many people are certainly against Isaac's behavior however if you get on the wrong side of the ORC you might change your tune. Whenever you come up against the ORC you alone at your expense will face the JUDGE, JURY and EXECUTIONER all rapped up in one neat package. If you wish to defend yourself against them you will put up your money the ORC will put up your money again as they use money they generate out of your purse money.
Now it's quite apparent there are two sets of rules here one for the horsemen, one for the ORC. In the very first paragraph of the ORC's reason for their decision against Isaac they state that " everyone must be held accountable". This does seem to be everyone except the ORC. There have been several incidents in which the ORC have been incorrect but has anyone seen where they have paid a penalty?
If their ever is to be fairness in this game this Kangaroo Court system must be changed. You cannot be judged by the organization you have violated and expect an unbiased review of the event and expect a prudent judgement.
This event is much more than Isaac'c behavior this gets to part of the very core issues of what is wrong with this industry. You can't keep pushing people out the door and expect to grow. When there is an underlying resentment towards your administration there will never be a trust or respect for the officials Let the officials be the officials let someone else be the JUDGE, JURY and EXECUTIONER. Maybe more respect would be forthcoming and less showmanship be generated from frustration.
Frank Lester a previous participant who has tired of the Kangaroo Court system
In reply to Mr Burgess I commend you for by F Lester
Don't give in ORC. We saw
Don't give in ORC. We saw what happened when a decision was made towards Bruno Schickedanz, now we see the same with Mr. Waxman. Barring people for wrondoing gives more credibility to the game that you can imagine. So many people want to enjoy the pleasure of horse racing but do not want to hear about corruption, drugging, horses breaking down, etc. ORC is trying and I hope they continue because I know for sure that people do not stop going to the races as a protest after a owner, driver or trainer is barred, it's when they hear this negatinve news that they decide to stop attending this great game. As a passing note I see Mr. Waxman has gone back to court, oh yes that was after his apology and movie review.
A close reading of some of
A close reading of some of the comments within this thread reveals several gems of wisdom, logic and reason.
The notion that this incident might actually be good for the business is right near the top.
However, personally, my favourite is Mr. Waxman’s reference to the judicial systems in Libya and Iran in describing the manner in which he feels the ORC has ruled in his case.
Of course, if such an analogy was - in fact - true, he is asserting is that the ORC is comparable to a regime that sponsors terrorism, was responsible for the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, and who is now hiring mercenaries to massacre fellow countrymen.
Given such reasoning, it is no wonder he feels persecuted.
Funny how you have all these
Funny how you have all these comments.. both good and bad against Mr. Waxman, trainers, owners, his own brother and two posts by Isaac himself, but yet not ONE comment from an ORC offical.
Either shows one of a couple things:
a) They want this issue to just go away... Which in reading Isaac's 2nd post, this is going to the court system.. so it's not and ORC may have its hands full explaining why it can't govern itself properly and targeting people. Believe me, Isaac isn't the first they've targeted and I'm sure it will not be the last.
b) The ORC feels they are above the betting public and feel they do not have to explain this situation further. Believe me, being snobbish isn't going to win you anymore fans then Issac's shuffling action on the track. Maybe Issac has a point.. Power can corrupt.
One last thing to address with ORC, people are not robots. Whether they be jockeys, owners, trainers, or anyone involved in the horse racing business, they all have a heart and they have feelings and emotions. Sometimes, people can not keep those bad emotions in check and you have incidents like Isaac's at KD.
He's admitted that he did wrong, some of the actions he did I would not approve of, but is it worthy of just suspending him of his job and career for a year? I know, he's had "behaviour problems" before, but reality is, that should be the least of the ORC's worries. Does his problem cause concern to the betting public?? Maybe, but not to the concern of a jockey whipping his horse beyond the need to or owner/trainers doping up their horses..
Remember ORC, the jockeys, trainers and owners are the life of your business. You want to make harness racing interesting, let these folks do their jobs and show their heart and personalities... Good or bad, it could spark some life in an otherwise bland sport.
I stopped betting harness
I stopped betting harness racing in Ontario for 2 reasons....
1. The Western Fair inside the pylons non-dq.
2. The Trevor Ritchie DQ for the hand-hold violation which went against the spirit of the rule and the best interest of the bettors/sport.
Nothing Mr. Waxman has done in the charges I have read would ever stop me from betting. In fact, his reputation of trying every race is actually an incentive to bet.
Did the Western Fair judges get a year suspension and a $5,000 fine? I don't know what eventually happened, but I'm betting they didn't.
Has a bettor/customer ever felt like they were robbed at gunpoint (which is what happened if they bet on the trotter Mr. Ritchie was dq'ed on) by any of Mr. Waxman's actions?
No matter what Issac Waxman
No matter what Issac Waxman says all you need to remember is the quote in the last line of his failed attempted to explain away his actions......."POWER CORRUPTS: ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY". In other words it's poor Isaac against "The Man". I thought that went out in the 60's. I was equally surprise by Blair Burgess and his comment, and I quote,"It just might bring some much needed attention to our sport". Now I figured Mr. Burgess to be a very smart and respected horseman but comments like this sure do undermind my view. Do you seriously believe that more people will start attending the races if we have people like Issac Waxman shaking their genitals, cursing and giving the finger to the judges?? I can see the crowds pouring in as we speak. WOW!!!
Judges deserve a little
Judges deserve a little support here, as I read through each response and many are very well written I feel compelled to support the individuals responsible for governing this sport. ORC judges govern based on a set of rules/guidelines derived by the industry at large, some rules are black and white yet some are grey. If a judge decides to give a horseman 2 minutes grace for being late to the paddock he technically puts his job on the line. This is what has happened on more than one occasion: driver A is on the road and calls the judges to report he is 2 minutes from the track, essentially making him 2 minutes late to report, the judge gives driver A the 2 minutes grace and everyone is happy. Now driver B calls to report that he is 15 minutes late, the judge decides it is too late and takes him off that drive. Driver B gets wind that driver A was late yet given grace and now it becomes an attack on the commission. The judges upstairs are really no different than horseman, they are trying to do what is right and at the same time they are trying to support their families. They are responsible for their decisions and actions and fall under extreme scrutiny, they are under a magnifying glass for every decision they make. If I were a judge I wouldn't give a driver /trainer 30 seconds grace, simply because my livelihood is at risk for going into the grey area rather than keeping it black and white. Trust me, the judges would love to cut you some slack , however your fellow horseman may cry wolf if not given what they consider "the same treatment". So in conclusion, don't blame the judges for industry problems, they are truly in an unenviable position.
One thing is for sure, when
One thing is for sure, when Mr.Waxman's suspension is up if this hasn't taught him a valuable life lesson, nothing will. Let's hope over the coming weeks and months that he comes to understand that these types of public outbursts will never be tolerated. The race game has enough image problems as it is and it is sad to think that other trainers are so out of touch that they would try to justify his actions. I said for a long time that many people connected with this sport are simply out of touch in so many areas and this thread just backs up what me and so many others have stated over and over again, so many people in this sport just simply doesn't get it.
Time to grow up Mr. Waxman.
Time to grow up Mr. Waxman. Your actions were immature and you can only blame yourself. Maybe with this suspension and fine you will realize that there are rules to follow and they are not just for everyone else. Anyone that thinks that it is ok to grab their crotch & give the finger to the judges, at anytime, for any reason, need to be punished. Mr. Waxman obviouly felt/feels that he is above reproach and can do whatever he wants. You are not 15 years old anymore Issac. If you want be treated like a respect adult/horseman, then start acting like one.
Isaac Waxman is the Paris
Isaac Waxman is the Paris Hilton of Standardbred Racing, nothing more, nothing less. First off, the sense of entitlement being portrayed here is laughable at best. Be a man and take it like a man. The sport does not need you nor any young people that want to behave like you. Take your toys and go home. This is not a witch hunt, you've brought it on by yourself. There are lots of young guys that get out of line, take their lumps and move on. Your name is synonomous with that of a spoiled brat. You do not deserve anymore chances nor do you deserve to own horses. I commend the ORC for finally dealing with him in the hopes that he would go away but he's obsessed with the limelight and now he wants to drag anymore that will lend a sypathtic ear into his "poor me" playground.
The jig is up Cat in the Hat.........GO HOME!!!
I will have to recuse myself
I will have to recuse myself from this discussion because apparently I don't have enough starts to know acceptable behaviour from unacceptable behaviour. Excuse me Blair for having so few starts.(unbelievable) Let's speak the truth.... Isaac Waxman needs to quit behaving badly. He also needs to accept responsibility for his behaviour and give up this feeling of entitlement he seems to have. Waxman doesn't deserve your sympathy. If he has so much disdain for the ORC why did he participate at all. If Isaac continues on his present path, it's just a matter of time until his family tires of his antics and turns off the money tap, he wont even get the chance to drive a thirsty horse to a water pail.
Mr. Burgess has nothing to
Mr. Burgess has nothing to gain and oh so much to lose by openly critizing the ORC. He has seen it lived it and experienced it. He has what used to be said before political correctness and self serving cowardice crep in, GUTS!!
The ORC is in no way the
The ORC is in no way the "leadership" of the harness racing industry. It is "THE" regulating/governing body for our sport.
"Leadership" falls helplessly at the feet of our fractured, non functioning, ineffective, powerless Horsemen's associations (a direct result of our self-serving,short-sighted mindset as horsemen). Since we are talking about trends - the only one I can see taking shape is the desire for racetrack ownership to set us adrift on an iceflow in the North Atlantic. In an era of "so many other ways to actually make money while owning a racetrack other than racing", we have quickly become a burden, a liability to racetrack owners (a.k.a. we cost them money - one, maybe two exceptions come to mind) ... one day, quite soon, the ORC will be the only one in our corner. The tactics and process may have been flawed, but just recently the ORC tried to force a Racetrack to spend some much needed money on the Horsmens's side of the property - I'm not 100% sure that all of their demands were met. If the ORC can't force our Racetracks to maintain a safe property for us to carry out our business on, the number of days you get for a suspension will no longer matter.
I encourage all that have issues with the governing body of our sport to write a letter to your local MPP outling your concerns.
Due to the numerous comments
Due to the numerous comments in reaction to the events of February 3rd at Kawartha Downs and the subsequent rulings of the ORC judges and further to my letter of response, I feel it is encumbent upon me to clarify the following.
First and foremost, I would like to apologize for my actions in front of the grandstand at Kawartha Downs on that chilly afternoon. In retrospect, it was certainly poor judgment to exemplify my displeasure with the judges in such a public forum. I regret any negative reflection this has placed on my entire family and the racing community. Further, it is also not my position to escape a fine and/ or suspension for these actions. I am known to be exuberant and the unfair scratching of my horse that day( following other unfair rulings against me in the past) set me off. This explains but doesn't excuse my display. My subsequent actions were directed solely at the judges and definitely at noone else. I was so upset that I decided to make a loud statement to those judges alone. I apologize to any fan who I offended. When I entered the track area at Kawartha at 5:00 P.M. or so on that cold -7 degree day there were only a few older smokers outside at that time. The interaction was between myself and the judges. I expect a penalty in keeping with proper precedent and judgement, not one in keeping with sore feelings and retribution.
One good thing that has come from these actions and comments is a ground swell of criticism whether good or bad that can hopefully get us all to a point of looking more realistically at the longevity of this sport and to the effectiveness of those that are chosen to oversee this sport. If I am the lightning rod for this type of action then that is a positive thing.
Further to the above sincere apology I would like to add a couple more thoughts for this forum.
I watched a movie the other night called Rollerball which is a sport run in a corporate controlled future. I feel like Jonathan E. who is the player defiant against the powers that want him out of the game at any cost. This thought is not to diminish my culpability but to lend a flavour of perspective to all of you.
Finally,I also feel terrible at the backlash against innocent partners on horses that I trained and/or co-owned. The ORC has decided to declare standardbred martial law and hold all purses regarding those horses that have raced since February 3d even in blatant contravention of a court order. The libelous ORC accusations of improper owner transfers which they had posted on your public site would further make one wonder how they expect to earn needed respect from the industry and the fans. I wrongly assumed that sentences without hearings and/or trials only applied in Iran and Libya.
"POWER CORRUPTS: ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY"
Respectfully
Isaac Waxman
In reply to Due to the numerous comments by IWAXMANRACING
Mr Waxman's comments are
Mr Waxman's comments are similar to the comments of Charlie Sheen, i.e he will say whatever it takes to get back in the good graces of the fans and judges and after the apologies of how sorry he is, the arrogance shows up again towards the end of his letter. Some people never change.
Funny how a guy with a beef
Funny how a guy with a beef with the ORC can flush out so many others with an axe to grind. Too bad that manning up and accepting responsibility for one's actions doesn't seem to be an option here. I guess fighting to protect the good name of "Waxman" in the sport is more important. With character references from the likes of Mr. Wassilyn I'm sure the ORC will see the light and restore Mr Waxman's licence forthwith.
Passion??? Mr. Aaron
Passion???
Mr. Aaron Waxman;
Let me start by stating my complete disappointment in your somewhat supporting the actions of your brother. These actions were irresponsible and repetitive in nature to some of the many antics he has pulled in the past with suspensions and probation periods placed on him. This event at Kawartha Downs is so over the top that we would be fools to allow your brother to participate in this sport again in his life. A petition has been started to move for such a penalty and gaining much support. You have referenced the time and money you have put into this sport, and reference your "passion" for the sport, and then offer comments that the ORC should not be "wasting their time on it". I agree - this should not have happened in the first place for them to have to waste their time on it!! Now that it has - it is time to set an example and make sure they will never have to waste their time again. You are correct - there are many other issues the ORC should be using their time for. If you are truly passionate about this sport, you should understand how damaging this could be to our sport. You should understand that this needs to be dealt with, quickly and with harsh punishment. Instead you share the thought pattern of your brother by stating the ORC needs too get their ducks in a row?? To go on to say the ORC is funded by our government and that they need to show "professional leadership", and not dictatorship, strongly suggests your misunderstanding of laws that govern our industry. This individual has been punnished in the past with fines/suspensions for his behaviour and here they are again "wasting time". Without so much as one full year of proper conduct. To try and tie this to the sports objective to attract young people, I question your motive. This is not the type of entertainment young people come to a harness race to see. If this is your idea of the type of entertainment we should be providing, perhaps you should consider a change aswell - this not welcomed here. This should be dealt with and moved on to much more positive growth oriented platform. He had his chance, he did not see the warning signs. He's out.
In reply to Passion??? Mr. Aaron by thestorekeep
Well said Mr. Bossie...This
Well said Mr. Bossie...This industry did well or bad before Mr. Waxman and will do just as bad or well after Mr. Waxman.
I find something very
I find something very interesting here. I don't know the details of Mr. Waxman's conduct or previous transgressions. Nor do I really care to be quite frank. However, having read this entire comments section one very important fact jumped out at me. That is that quite a few people many which work in the industry noted that cheating, race fixing etc. does not even receive this kind of harsh treatment.
And yet I have seen very little action taken to remedy this. Little wonder that this game is going the way of the dodo bird.
In case anyone missed it on Sunday night Tim (the bionic man) Tetrick won 9 races. Wanna know why? Because he tried in all nine that's why. At least he gives people a fair shake for their money. And the best the ORC can do is fine a guy for arriving late to the paddock?
I once thought there might be hope for harness racing in Canada. Now I am certain there isn't.
First of all let me say that
First of all let me say that I am very embarrassed by, and disappointed in Isaacs (re)actions at Kawartha Downs on February 3rd of this year.
That being said I am much more disappointed in the ORC’s misconduct, inconsistency of regulation, and lack of professionalism. This perspective is supported by many and it is surprisingly clear that in this forum many writers have taken the opportunity to question the ORC’s conduct as a more significant problem than my brother’s conduct at hand.
I have invested considerable time, energy, and finances into this sport, only to watch our “leadership”, in particular the ORC, continue at our helm while we trend in the wrong direction in terms of sport popularity, attendance, and wagering. Our industry leadership is often motivated by jealousy and hidden agendas, rather than being motivated by the more appropriate goal of our sports continued success and survival.
Positive tests, race fixing, Sexual Assault, obstruction of justice, drug use etc. are some of the major issues that the ORC has had to deal, but while Isaac is guilty of no such violations, they have obviously decided that by raising his middle fingers he is a more sinister and damaging character then licensees guilty of the above.
The ORC should focus more on the broader challenges which our industry needs to address, and not minimize itself to the function of caretaker. I understand the need for an overseeing body such as the ORC, and I appreciate many of their projects and policies, but I believe they need to be a professional and objective arbitrator of fairness and not a heavy handed dictatorship.
Harness racing is my passion and I only want to see what is best for this industry. I am trying to be as objective as possible, but I feel it necessary at this juncture to defend my younger brother and his commitment to our industry. Contrary to the belief of some, he is a horseman first, he shares with me a true passion for the standardbred horse and standardbred racing. He has worked diligently to become a successful trainer and I believe that he is both a skilled and hard working trainer and an improving driver. In a time when we need more passionate and young people in our sport, the ORC is trying to take his passion and livelihood away from him, and in my opinion, have been patently unfair in deciding a number of his cases.
Isaac’s conduct was inappropriate, and I do believe he does deserve a fine and/or suspension based on fact and precedent. Furthermore, until the ORC implements fairer and more consistent policies and provides the professional leadership which it is funded by the government to provide, the ORC will remain an even larger problem for our industry.
Having been around this
Having been around this business as a gambler for many years and pretty much having seen it all, this is yet another scene in a long list of what makes this once great sport, the sad state of affairs that it is now. Guys like Stanley Dancer and Billy Haughton must be rolling in their graves.
From guys wiring racebikes and crashing in front of the grandstand, from the era of the "milkshake" to the era of 'EPO", from hidden ownership , from guys milking the classes, now this , a guy flipping the bird and yelling obsenities to the judges from the winners circle in front the packed crowd of 12 people who filled Kawartha on that much anticipated action packed afternoon, where the majority of harness racing fans and gamblers would have rather been watching paint dry.
I also find it hypocritical that a poster here, (not mentioning any names as I want this post to be approved) would have the audacity to come on here and make comments, when they have been a part of the problem with this industry in the past, ie, milking the young horse classes for many years.
Having said that Mr Waxman, should be punished (but surely not what he received) for his actions as they were very unprofessional (although somewhat humerous). He is like the Charlie Sheen of harness racing at this time and I think the industry should look at marketing him in some capacity while he is suspended, maybe as a Racenight Live Analyst. I can see it now, a video of the bird flip on a promo with the obscenties bleeped out would sure be a wonderful marketing tool to try and attract the younger "Jersey Shore" crowds that this business needs.
The actions of Isaac
The actions of Isaac certainly warranted some king of reprimand. However $5000 and a year seems awfully aggressive considering things like positive tests receive much lighter punishments yet are a far bigger black eye on the industry as they can directly impact results on the track. I think most of us would be fine with a more aggressive approach to positive tests and form reversals out of retention and anything else that affects our product on the racetrack.
The penalties should fit the infraction!
This was too aggressive!
Let the courts dish out the
Let the courts dish out the justice and make it fair to all, suspend the drivers who are not trying night after night, don't pick and choose who you try to destroy. What waxman did at KD might not be right for ORC but at least he tries to win. How can you drive away fans that don't exist? Soon there won't be anyone to suspend, you will have destroyed what you started out to protect - the racing industry, it's sad but its true. Thank you and good luck.
Boy did I ever stir the pot.
Boy did I ever stir the pot. I want to know how many starts per year people have who have criticized my defense of Mr. Waxman. All I know for sure is: if I prepare a horse to race for an entire week, pay all the inherent expenses that go with it (or bill them to a client), ship two and a half hours in the winter to KD, and am also dependent on the income I derive from that horse (this ain't no hobby), I am going to be seriously "pissed off" when three guys upstairs in a nice warm room decide I can't race. I wont start grabbing my crotch in public but I am going to be "hoppin" mad. Come to think of it, I might have done something like that when I was twenty-four and had a little more testosterone in my body. And then to top it off (and Ralph is correct here) they have a hearing that to me does not sound anything like proper procedure. I don't know if Mr Waxman had counsel present, but would like to hear the objective opinion of a lawyer here. Removing Mr. Waxman from the sport is not the removal of a cancer, but a wart. I assure you that the lack of handle, attendance, or interest is not because of people like Mr. Waxman. We have to stop being so insular. The real cancer of racing is that the majority of the time we are putting on a boring presentation, with small to miniscule pools, that at most tracks you can't even differentiate the combatants on the television feed. On top of that it moves at a relatively slow pace for today's gambler. The ORC has some control of how to make things better and I guess is doing so with it's recent new directives. But how about some simple concrete things like: getting the "official " sign up faster. The rate at which this is done in Ontario is embarrassing. I don't want inquiries to the player as to whether or not he tripped the guy----just make the damn call. Or how about forcing tracks to improve their TV feeds. Or better yet, force them to put their signal up in the first place (especially when they have Sire Stake races , as owners are bettors). Harness Racing can be great sport and I saw first hand how that can be done at the Prix D'Amerique this year. Fine and suspend Waxman for his actions, I don't care. But if some of the commentators on this board and the ORC think there will be a tremendoes improvement to racing with witch hunts like this, they're crazy.
first of all we all know how
first of all we all know how the ORC is all about. but on the other hand this guy (WAXMAN) shouldnt never had his driver or trainer licence in the first place!Money buys a lot in this businees and thats the perfect example of it. take ur suspension like we all do and RESPECT the game!
I do agree that in the past
I do agree that in the past the ORC has withheld pertinent details and made unjust decisions in regards to previous suspensions/fines/incidences but I do not believe this is one of those times. It also shouldn't be acceptable to pick and choose who to punish and who's dirty laundry is broadcasted, it should be all or none.
There is a distinct undertone in some of the posts defending Isaac's actions in regards to our governing body BUT the true question is whether Isaac should be reprimanded for his actions and I believe the answer is yes. No person should be let away with conduct like that period!! It is bad for the sport and agree that the spectators shouldn't have been subjected to that type of behaviour. It is true that other sports (ie. wrestling) as mentioned prior to my post displays lewd gestures etc but we can choose to change the channel, not so in this case.
Isaac has a lengthy history of misconduct in his very short career as a horse trainer/owner/driver. I personally think the punishment isn't harsh enough. Fines and suspensions are put in place for a reason. It will indeed be interesting to see whether he can buy his way out of this one or not!
The ORC needs to be made
The ORC needs to be made responsible to a higher authority (REAL 'JUDGES'). I worked for the Childrens Aid Society for over 25 years, under the Child & Family Services Act. Can you imagine someone taking your children ... and your Appeal was heard by OTHERS within the Childrens Aid Society. My God, your kids would be grown before you saw them again!!!
When the ORC lay a 'charge', any appeal/response should be heard in a proper Court - by a proper (unbiased) JUDGE!! That Judge would KNOW the Legislation ... and would rule on the conduct and merits of BOTH SIDES in the matter. Justice (to and for ALL).
I don`t know Mr. Waxman. The alleged behaviour is childish and ineffective (in seeking any positive response). Maybe he`s got the finances to achieve a fair outcome. BUT - I have seen BETTORS behave much worse after losing a little wager - with NO intervention.
Too often, FAIRNESS and JUSTICE rest in Litigation BEYOND the ORC. It would NOT be that way, if the ORC was reprimanded for GIVING IT (THE FINGER) to Horsepeople.
The operation of the paddock
The operation of the paddock at Kawartha is not really the issue here. It is what it is and if I am understanding Blairs' comments correctly, a simple phone call or direct conversation with the paddock judge is sufficient to buy you a little time regarding the 1 hour rule. Remember, Waxman was not suspended for being late to the paddock he was suspended for subsequent behaviour that goes way beyond what any reasonable human would consider acceptable. I believe Isaac knows what is acceptable and what is not. No one is asking him to lose his passion for winning, just lose the attitude.
Let's be fair to Blair!
Let's be fair to Blair! Blair Burgess is not condoning the behaviour of Isaac Waxman. He is simply adding another dimension to the situation. Mr. Waxman's previously documented anger management issues provided the Judges with a little extra ammunition this time around, as they judged him not just on the current incident but for a wider "body of work." Blair pointed out inconsistencies with the check-in system in place at KD; this affects everyone, not just Mr. Waxman. As I see it, Blair is merely clarifying some facts, as he has a right to do.
I bet and watch all of the
I bet and watch all of the ontario racing seen for 15 years. I believe waxman should get a life ban. Anyone who acts out like he did needs help. He needs anger managemnet counseling! The industry needs more guys like Randy Waples and the Zerons, not waxman. Glad he is suspened!
In reference to Linda-Anne
In reference to Linda-Anne Russ' comments: She is correct in stating the actions of Mr I. Waxman, in front of a crowd of people, at Kawartha was indeed embarassing, vulgar, and distasteful on his part. Agreed, he made a huge mistake and that kind of behavior should not be tolerated.
I agree, the sport needs to clean up its act all the way around. Owners, trainers, horsemen, etc. in order for harness racing to be a genuinely fine sport. And it could be again! The majority of the people in harness racing are honest, hard working, caring, and decent people. There are quite a few that are not.
I feel the only way to weed out what is "bad" in this sport is to do it from the first incident of suspension. No questions, no return, and never being aloud to be a part of harness racing again anywhere. There is no other way to get rid of a cancer and keep it away without doing it at onset. When a cancer goes into remition it most often comes back, just as the "bad" in the sport have and return to keep doing those bad things.
Thanks for listening.
Janelle Scherbik
NJ,USA
In reply to In reference to Linda-Anne by janelle766
First i would like to say
First i would like to say that i do not condone Mr Waxman tactics at all . These kind of act's have no place in this industry at all, but after reading some of the public facts of this story there sounds like there is some grey areas. To me a rule is only a rule when it applies to everyone if it does not apply to everyone then we have a grey area and that leave's it open to interpretation . I am happy to hear this story has been taken to the proper forum the ontario court system and it should be decided there not at the racetracks or on this forum . It is too bad that more people can not afford to challenge some of these rulings and i wish Mr Waxman good luck . I have also noticed that none off his offences have happen at WEG a place that is run a little stricture then some of the smaller tracks.
Good luck
Sonny
I happened to be at KD with
I happened to be at KD with my son when Mr. Waxman had his meltdown. EMBARRASSING!!!
One of our leading trainers
One of our leading trainers and ambassadors for Harness racing Blair Burgess is sticking up for this childish and senseless behavior from Mr. Isaac Waxman?
Wow when you hear from one
Wow when you hear from one of the sports most respected trainers in Blair Burgess in regards to this, it's gratifying to know that the small person is not alone in the fight for equal rights in this game. Blair I agree with your comments a hundred percent and commend you for stepping up and standing for what you believe. If more of the big names would do the same perhaps we could change this game for the better.
Has anyone watched pro
Has anyone watched pro wrestling they do much worse and look at the fanbase and money spent on that. Just a thought.
When i was playing the races
When i was playing the races of course you wanted to bet on trainers that gave every effort to win like Mr.Waxman. Having said that, if he done what they say he did at Kd then he deserves to be punished and is probably getting off rather lightly. This type of conduct should be totally unacceptable to all connected with the sport. Shame on those who speak out supporting this type of conduct which is yet another black eye for the sport, just what the race game needs. This type of childish behavior and then fellow trainers trying to justify it.
Mr.Waxman always gives his
Mr.Waxman always gives his best effort but in this case I believe he crossed the line and hopefully learns from this how to conduct himself in the future.
I'm another bettor that has
I'm another bettor that has never met Mr. Waxman, but I sure know that he's one person that I would love to see at the track more.
Here's a guy, training and driving his horses to win and it seems like he's just not getting a break from anyone in this community. So, he got a change to tell them where to stick it and now he's fined and suspended because of this.
I'm not judging his action at KD that afternoon, but someone can only take so much before they snap.
As for this scaring away new fans to harness racing... Let me ask you this.. How many times have you given the finger to someone that you feel didn't do you right on the road or vice versa??? We all know what the gesture means and believe the kids will see it far before they see it at the racetrack.
Really, I only wish more trainers, owners and jockeys would show their true selves more, especially if they feel wronged, instead of just grinning and bearing it.
In reply to I'm another bettor that has by NathonG
Isaac is defiant and proud
Isaac is defiant and proud of it. Imagine a family man bringing his kids for the 1st time to a racetrack and watching this man displaying his arrogance. We keep saying the game is dying but nobody is listening.
AHHH! Some refreshing
AHHH! Some refreshing insight from argueable one of the sports top colt trainers. Gee Blair, you sure are laughing at a lot of people. Your comments are decorated with a hint of distaste for the governing body of our sport and they clearly indicate your "take" on this incident. Your comments also cement my belief in an age old adage - "a good horse, is a good horse, is a good horse"
First of all my hat comes
First of all my hat comes off to Blair Burgess what courage.....Thank you Blair. We the people ask why all the details about Waxman? In most fines and suspensions,,,almost never is it published what drug was used...What words an individual said...Who was sexually violated...Who was at fault in a confrontation...Why did a member of the Ontario Racing Commission get reprimanded...On and on...It's all censored...I do not expect this to be published,on account of self serving censorship. Please excuse me,,,I wish to clarify my statement,,,it is not directed at a person in the flesh,,,it is directed at the form of evil by the principalities and powers of evil forces,,,now I must also inform the people,,,all the years of struggles and disagreements that as an individual,,,the driving force was for justice of the people,,,however I have completed the course and fought the good fight,,,I feel this was all in vain,and perhaps it was,,,therefore this is a time to say thank -you to all those who stand for righteousness,,,if not you will fall for anything,,,stand firm and together in your beliefs ,,,I am getting tired and have decided to support a cause different to this...As many others have fallen,,,lost their lives,,,and have been forgotten,,,be well my friends,,,may God bless you...Mike Wassilyn Sr.
Atleast Mr. Waxman you do
Atleast Mr. Waxman you do admit you are wrong. I don't know you or what really has happened. I love the sport of harness racing and I am passionate about the horses. I trust most people in this sport do or they would find another line of work. I follow Standardbred Canada and racing in the US. I am an assistant trainer in NJ and I have heard your name before.
Why does there have to be so much "bad" stuff in every professional sport? Not just horse racing? How many professional athletes get into big trouble and lose everything. Or say someone kills someone and ends up in jail and loses all that was worked for. After the fact was that really worth losing everything? Or course not.
What is the point of ruining yourself, career, whatever you worked that hard for, and throw it away? Why be so hard on yourself, everyone else, the horses, etc. to be that good? There is always someone else better. I think you should lighten up on yourself some and not be so hard on everything around you. This business is tough enough without adding more troubles and problems to it. Do your thing and let the others do theirs. Plain and simple. Enjoy the sport you work in sometimes. You don't have to be the best all the time. Because you aren't doesn't make you any less of a person, trainer, owner, etc. then another. I think you agree all of what happened wasn't worth this?!
Thank you for sharing and listening. Enlightening to hear what the real person has to say.
Janelle Scherbik
NJ, USA
People - please, Do you
People - please,
Do you sincerely believe the jugdement and ruling against I.Waxman isn't justified? For the people who commented that they do not know I.Waxman - how can you say that this is a witch hunt or everyone is out to get him? If you don't know him or what the whole story is about - think about your comments and how you think the system is wrong. Just ask yourself if your family (children, mother,etc) were there to witness these disgusting gestures - would you be so proud to say you are part of the Standardbred Racing? Trainers - real trainers - are desperately trying to stay alive and keep the business "clean" by acting like human beings and trying to maintain "class" in a world that is already hurting. Do you think the trainers whom are trying to involve a potential owner to invest money would be proud to have this mockery witnessed by them? There are many trainers - drivers - men & women alike - that sincerely love this business and depend on it to earn a living. This is not an ordinary job and to many it is not a "hobby" and believe it or not this is very serious. Be very careful of the words you speak before knowing the truth - like it or not.
Linda Ross
Re: Isaac Waxman's fines and
Re: Isaac Waxman's fines and suspensions. I have owned trained and bred standardbred horses for just about 30 years and have NEVER, I repeat NEVER, been fined or suspended. A record that I am proud of. End of story. Sam Taylor
I know isaac to see him i
I know isaac to see him i have never spoke to him personally but i do believe that he is receiving unfair attention by the orc. He may have done the wrong thing at kawartha that day but i will not judge him as i have wanted to do similar but did not have the stones to do, so i could not agree more with Mr. waxmans thoughts on the game and how until the orc starts focusing on promoting and enhancing the sport instead of themselves we will all suffer.
Because of the orc alot of the smaller guys are gone and i am on the verge of disappearing as well. isaac, i commend you on voicing your opinion and perhaps that was the only way to be heard because talking to them seems to be a lost cause as they just seem to talk down to us small folk.
Blair Burgess. What petty
Blair Burgess. What petty nonsense! And I laugh at those that think it's bad for the industry. There's no race fixing or drug scandal here. It just might bring some much needed attention to our sport. At least Mr. Waxman is passionate about winning. Sure there should be some reprimand for his behavior, but a read over of the latest ruling by the judges at KD is demonstrative of an organization that seems unable to prevent itself from sinking to the level of the person in question. Just censure Mr. Waxman appropriately and stop analyzing his very existence publicly. And one other note: my experience with the 1 hour to post cut off at KD is that if you warm up accordingly (especially for winter conditions) it is sometimes tough to get in there in time. After all there are few three race paddocks left in Ontario. I have been a little late, as they know your horse is already on the grounds or in the next barn over. They page you or talk to the groom and it is fine. They must have been a little anxious to scratch Mr. Waxman's horse. When it comes down to it, aren't we all in this together. I want to beat my competitors on the track---not have them prevented from participating because they were a somewhat late to the paddock.
One would think that if Mr
One would think that if Mr Waxman was on the racetrack, in front of the grandstand for 2-3 minutes, someone would have had the race cameras rolling capturing the event. This should determine just cause for the suspension.
To all those who have
To all those who have commented despite claiming they have never met Mr. Waxman, I suggest you meet him. After having met him, you will have no doubt that the ORC is headed in the right direction. The type of behaviour Mr.Waxman exhibits would not be tolerated in any sport. His complete disregard for the authorities has put him in his present predicament. I can accept the fact that Mr. Waxman has a problem. It's a problem that Mr. Waxman alone can solve. Apparently his problem solving tool box is near empty, because he thinks using rude hand gestures and profane language is an effective way of dealing with conflict. Mr. Waxman is oblivious to his lack of objectivity in matters concerning reasonable conduct. According to the facts stated above, "Waxman entered onto the racetrack area directly in front of the public grandstand and proceeded to raise his arms in the air with his middle fingers extended. He then began to shout "vulgar profanities" numerous times. He then made several stroking motions with his arm extended from his groin area towards the grandstand and the judges' stand." This appears to be a remarkably bold step on his part given his numerous past violations. While most participants would be on their best behaviour during probation, Mr. Waxmans' conduct reflects his lack of respect for the rules of racing and the utter disregard for his fellow participants and the general public.
Issac; I think it
Issac;
I think it appropriate for the judges to allow you to grace the KD tarmack area with your presence once again, this time in your civilian attire of course. Evan will bring down a mic. for you and you can appologize to all that observed you during your period of misjudgment (especially any school-aged children who may have witnessed the incident). Such behaviour can't be a positive step towards toppling the $17000 live handle that seeems to be the norm lately at KD.
"restorative justice" - it just may be more meaningful to our fans than days and/or dollars.
I have no idea if the
I have no idea if the sanctions against Mr Waxman are justified, but I do know once the ORC goes after some one they will leave no stone unturned untill they "Get" the alledged offender. Justified or not!
Another "shining" moment for
Another "shining" moment for the industry. I'm glad I sold all my horses / equipment back in the summer and got out. I realized it's not going to get any better - race fixing, drug scandals, gaming /slot issues, etc.. For all of you still in this "industry", more power to you, you must think it's brighter than I did.
After reading the article
After reading the article about Mr. Waxman's numerous malcontent encounters with the public, and racing officials included, I find it odd that Mr. Waxman is appealing the decisions of what appears to be rational and sound judgement! Must the wagering public be subjected to mockery, if only as a sounding board for ill feelings intended for racing officials? If Mr. Waxman is a bad apple for the industry-there are plenty of others at the core to scrutinize.
We do not need this attitude
We do not need this attitude at the racetrack nor anywhere else for that matter.
This sport is in dire need
This sport is in dire need of new fans, and his latest escapade is an embarrassment to the entire sport.
Mr Waxman has obviously run
Mr Waxman has obviously run afoul of the "authorities". I don't know him and have never met him, but I do know of the horrendous decisions made by Racing Officails and while most simply cowar from authority perhaps Mr. Waxman is the type who refuses to do that. It is curious that the Racing Officails stated that he "transfered ownership to his knowm girl friend". I can only assume that the Racing Oficals have secret files on who those involved in the industry associate with or perhaps audio and video survelance. Perhaps we should all be afraid, very afraid!!
A great man once said
A great man once said “when you judge another you do not define them, you define yourself”
I believe the fine and suspension to me speaks more of the ORC judges than it does of me.
I am a young guy. I am not a perfect guy. I am however a passionate guy who loves racing. When I am out there I am out to win all the time. That outlook may not be respected by all in the sport whom I answer to or compete with, but so be it.
I have now had the pleasure of being placed in retention at Woodbine ( sanctioned by the ORC) for no supportable reason, fined and suspended for unsubstantiated whipping violations in a schooling race, fined and suspended for misconduct due to voicing my legal rights to an ORC vet, had my harness driving license downgraded for other unsubstantiated allegations not pertaining to driving, and finally on February 3rd having my horse scratched improperly and unfairly at Kawartha Downs. The log sheet from Kawartha noted in the article was rife with other errors acknowledged by the judges. Finally, I have had purses held by the ORC due to the fact that I sought redress from our court system.
The unfounded lewd conduct assertion alluded to was more likely psychological transference in the eyes of certain beholders.
I am not proud of my reaction directed solely at the judges but a vendetta agenda can certainly result in the unforeseen.
The only thing going down in history is the mistreatment I am receiving, not the quote that was mischaracterized in the article.
It seems clear that situations in racing involving illegal drugs, race fixing, assaults, obstruction of justice and the like tend to receive short shrift and comparatively lighter fines and sentences. This is quite a loud message being sent to the horsemen and to the betting public.
A stay and appeal has already been requested by my counsel regarding the above fine and suspension.
One day down the road I trust my situation will be decided in a proper fashion.
One thing I do know, is that not until the hierarchy of standardbred racing in Ontario transforms from glorifying their image to glorifying the sport we all suffer together.
Never having met Mr. Waxman
Never having met Mr. Waxman and viewing the way the ORC operates the whole thing surrounding him appears to be nothing but a witch hunt. Here is a man who sends his horses ready to race and tries to win! Yet the ORC does absolutely nothing to the individuals who have no intention of trying or winning the race they are in. I doubt this comment will be posted as this site seems to censor alot of comments that are harshly worded against the ORC. Furthermore it is my belief that he was provoked and egged on by the ORC and its staff who in the past have shown great incompetance and lack of consistancy in their rulings.
Priceless!!
Priceless!!